The Republican Party is complaining, from Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan on down, that Barack Obama and Joe Biden are more nasty and divisive than in any Presidential campaign in history! Really?
Obviously, the Republicans have no knowledge or sense of history!
The Election of 1800 was NOT nasty and divisive, heh?
The Election of 1828 was not nasty and divisive, heh?
The Election of 1860 was not nasty and divisive, heh?
The Election of 1896 was not nasty and divisive, heh?
The Election of 1912 was not nasty and divisive, heh?
The Election of 1932 was not nasty and divisive, heh?
The Election of 1948 was not nasty and divisive, heh?
The Election of 1968 was not nasty and divisive, heh?
The Election of 1980 was not nasty and divisive, heh?
The Election of 1992 was not nasty and divisive, heh?
The Election of 2000 was not nasty and divisive, heh?
The Election of 2004 was not nasty and divisive, heh?
The Election of 2008 was not nasty and divisive, heh?
In fact, beyond these MORE divisive elections, EVERY Presidential election is nasty and divisive!
What IS different is that this round, the Democrats are striking back aggressively, which often in the past did not happen, to the same level as the Republicans, who are always nasty and divisive, whether favored to win the election or not!
But both Barack Obama and Joe Biden have stuck to attacks on the issues, not personalities, as both have always said that Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are good family men, decent people, but are wrong on the issues.
On the other hand, the Republicans have launched personal attacks on both Obama and Biden, making insulting comments about them, particularly Obama, questioning whether he is an American, wondering about his birthplace, playing the race card, and showing him disrespect. And now, Biden is being attacked that he may have “lost it”, ridiculing mistakes he makes, which are few and far between as compared to Mitt Romney throughout his Presidential campaign!
So what it comes down to is that GOP does not like an aggressive opposition on the issues and contradictions they have as their record. The answer is tough on them, as this is the “big time”, and no longer will the Democrats allow themselves to be disrespected and ridiculed without a strong, aggressive response!
The attacks on Obama are purely policy. Name one prominent Republican/Conservative politician who said anything about his birthplace or race. Unless you actually believe that saying Obama is “angry” is racial code!?? Good grief! Is it so hard to accept that we detest his policies? Just as we detest Reid, and Pelosi’s policy. How is it that if you support reforming the welfare state, you are racist? How is it that if I say, I don’t agree with amnesty for illegal immigrants, I am racist? If I don’t support people on welfare using the EBT for eating at McDonalds or any other fast food I am racist? If I support reforming Medicare, I therefore must hate the elderly. What kind of mindest is that? Its a very simple one.
I guess what Joe Walsh has said, or John Sununu, or Michele Bachmann, or Sarah Palin, or Donald Trump, or many others have said is of no consequence? And this includes Reince Priebus, the RNC Chairman!
Case closed on just being policy issues, as that is simply not true.
No, you are not a racist for opposing what you list, but there is plenty of racism expressed toward Obama in the past four years and during the 2008 campaign as well. You can deny it, but that does not make it go away! Thank goodness, you are more decent by far than the party you support!
I believe Trump is not a politician. Now did Sununu attack Obama on his race? His birthplace? Did Bachman? Palin? Please specify when anyone of those ever said anything about Obama’s race. Seriously. Because there are people out there, many, who actually believe Palin said she could see Alaska from her house, so please you must have exact quote or video. One video of any of these politician making a racist comment, not a “code word’ but actual real life statement.
Oh and what did Priebus say that is racist?
Code words are enough, and there have been many such statements by many GOP political leaders, but I am not an encyclopedia to recall everything in precise detail, because, believe it or not, I cannot spend all my time constantly answering every question, and do not keep a specific catalogue of everything I read and see and hear.
Understand that I enjoy debating with you a lot, but the amount of time is consuming both you and me!
With your phrase “Code words are enough” just about wraps it up for me. I also enjoy the debate mind you. And I admit I sometimes go overboard with details, but I guess I was forced to because it was the only way I had and have of debating liberals when the occasion arises. And in my environment I am always the minority, so…LOL!
I love this debate LOL and find it interesting you can admit that “liberals” are hard to debate, because they know what they are talking about LOL hahaha! 🙂
I feel bad for you being in the minority in your “environment”! 🙂 LOL
Why don’t you come over from the “dark side”, to the light of day? 🙂 LOL
And don’t respond by saying I am racist, as that is not what I am trying to say, so don’t use that line on me! LOL
Finally, I wonder if you are in South Florida nearby, based on your IP address on these entries. Is that so?
I’m in MIami-Dade, and its not that I find it hard or difficult, remember I was there where you are now, I used to be of the dark side LOL!, Its just thats its usually me againts 2 or 3 debating at the same time. I find it fun, going from hard statistical numbers,which I find useless because libs tend to be unwavering no matter what the data, to discussing political philosophy…LOL! Oh and I would never race bait, I leave that to them. Though I always enjoy reminding my democrats friends, the overwhelmingly racist history of their party. And I don’t even start with the pre-civil war era, I like to begin with their great first Liberal President, Woodrow Wilson. I love seeing the look on their face when I tell him he imposed segregation not only in the armed forces, but in Washington. LOL!
You are absolutely correct about Woodrow Wilson’s horrific record on race! I do not debate that, but at the same time, he brought about the Federal Reserve, the Federal Trade Commission, the Clayton Anti Trust Act, the first Child Labor laws, and other labor laws. I see his shortcomings, but he is still in the top ten of Presidents by comparison, not on ideals of what a President should be!
I also know that Southern Democrats were racist and anti civil rights, but it was Northern Democrats led by Hubert Humphrey who finally did what was right, assisted by Truman and Ike and JFK and LBJ, and the power of southern Democrats and conservative Republicans was overcome.
And of course, northern moderate and liberal Republicans joined northern liberal Democrats in bringing that about, and I commend them for that, but that wing of the GOP is gone, with only maybe Susan Collins surviving after this election.
The GOP has become similar to the old Southern Democrats, because of the South hating the Civil Rights Act passed under LBJ, and they are very close to racist in their views, but of course veiled and coded. Very sad, indeed! 🙁
The GOP passed every single piece of civil rights legislation from the 13,14 amendments onwards until LBJ passed the Civil rights act of the 60’s. But you now very well it was the first, not only was the the post civil legislation, which the activist liberal SCOTUS declared unconstitional, but there was also Eisenhowers 1957 civil rights act. And northern Democrats liberal voted againts it, like then Senator John Kennedy. Also Senator Al Gore Sr. voted againts it. It was until well into the middle of the 20th century that some Democrats started joining the GOP regarding Civil rights. The GOP more or less was always classic liberal (or conservative as they are called today) and as such passed every single piece of civil rights legislation. The Democrats since Wilson were always progressive, even in the South, and they all voted in block againts all this legislation. Why they even voted againts womens right to vote amendment. Just look at the voting records in Congress. You can see them at the Congressional Globe, which I assume you know. Funny thing is now, the progressive Democrat party, the party of big government, who have always been racist, accuse classic liberal (conservative) Republicans of racism, all of sudden we switched! I find that fascinating. And to prove it progressive accuse them of using code language!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, you are now playing “dirty pool”! LOL
Yes, the Republicans of the Reconstruction era passed amendments and civil rights laws, but after 1877, they abandoned southern African Americans to the racist Southern Democrats, a result of the Compromise of 1877! They wanted power and the Presidency too much!
Yes, I know the Congressional Globe, the forerunner of the Congressional Record!
But in the 60s, the Democrats led the struggle for civil rights, fighting their own Southerners, and of course had the help of liberal Republicans, but again, that wing of the party is dead, and the GOP today does not support the enforcement of Civil Rights, so they gain no backing, to speak of, from African Americans!
Does supporting welfare reform somehow mean you don’t support civil right? Why is it that liberals always mix welfare with civil rights? Does supporting equality under law for everyone, which necesarily means not supporting affirmative action, mean we don’t support civil rights? Since when supporting civil rights means we have to give preference based on race or social background? Also I wonder who extended the Civil Rights Act of 1965 , back in 1982. Who signed the Civil Liberties Act of 1988? Who signed the Civil Rights Act of 1991? Also if the Republicans abandoned the african americans after 1877, how is it that every single African-American in Congress until 1935 was a Republican? Also If the parties had in some meaningful way flipped on civil rights, one would expect that to show up in the electoral results in the years following the Democrats’ 1964 about-face on the issue. Nothing of the sort happened: Of the 21 Democratic senators who opposed the 1964 act, only one would ever change parties. Nor did the segregationist constituencies that elected these Democrats throw them out in favor of Republicans: The remaining 20 continued to be elected as Democrats or were replaced by Democrats. It was, on average, nearly a quarter of a century before those seats went Republican. If southern rednecks ditched the Democrats because of a civil-rights law passed in 1964, it is strange that they waited until the late 1980s and early 1990s to do so. They say things move slower in the South — but not that slow.
You are a challenge, Gustavo! 🙂 LOL
Yes, Reagan signed the extension of the Voting Rights Act in 1982, after first saying it was unnecessary, gaining a firestorm, and changing his mind. Bush I was a moderate, no longer accepted in the GOP, so signed changes. Today, the GOP wants to put barriers in the way of voting, and cut down days on weekends for early voting, purposefully cutting down the minority vote. Some GOP states are bragging over what they are doing.
The number of African American Congressmen in the North were miniscule during the years before the Republicans lost the majority voter registration, only in Chicago and NYC.
Affirmative Action is not just race, but gender, and the GOP has worked against women’s interests for a long time, the reason why a majority vote Democratic for the past 30 years.
Welfare affects more whites than minorities, but it demonstrates lack of concern for the poor on the part of the GOP, well known for a long time, forgetting about two thirds are children!
Yes, Democrats won by habit in the South, because they opposed civil rights in the 1960s, but the next generation became Republicans due to characters like Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms, and were greeted with open arms in the GOP–quite disgraceful!