Reports are making it clear that the stress and tension level at the White House is sky high, and anyone who looks at Donald Trump can see that he is not looking healthy, and is striking out in a crazy, maniacal manner at everyone imaginable, including the assertion that the whistleblower in the Ukraine scandal should be treated as “spies in the past” have been treated, implying the death penalty.
Actually, only Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, convicted as atomic spies, were executed, with all other convicted spies having life in prison without parole.
But Trump is a danger to national security every day, and he could strike out by launching attacks and invasion on Iran, or declaring martial law by asserting that the “deep state” conspiracy he perceives in his crazy mind requires him to do so.
One has to hope that Vice President Mike Pence and the majority of the cabinet perceive the maniacal behavior of Donald Trump, and would be ready to take action under the 25th Amendment to take power away from the President if the craziness continues.
But it is hard to imagine Mike Pence putting the national interest ahead of his own ambitions, even though we know now that his wife. Karen Pence, is no fan of the Chief Executive.
So we are in very dangerous times, possibly more so than since September 11!
1. Has anybody ever considered the possibility that the only reason Donald Trump is in the White House is because the so-called “Deep State” put him there? That they put him there to continue what Obama and Cheney/Bush the Lesser had done on its behalf, and to honor the 8-On/8-Off tradition of Oval Office occupancy started with Eisenhower?
Think about it: IF the Deep State is the military-industrial complex/petro-financial web/techno-infotainment matrix/drugs n guns cartel/surveillance-secrecy-security-safety panopticon that is America today…; THEN ~ in this, The Age of Trump ~ the Deep State has never had it so good: even under Obama, Cheney/Bush the Lesser, and Clinton.
And, as always, it is getting a great deal of aid and abetment from the folks at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, up on The Hill.
2. Has anybody ever considered the possibility that putting a born again, fundamentalist, Waitin-for-The-Rapture Christianist Super Patriot in charge is exactly what Sinclair Lewis was talking about when he noted: “When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a bible.”
The Wachowski Brothers’ V FOR VENDETTA does a good job of showing what that looks like in real life.
3. Has anybody ever considered the possibility that the election of Donald Trump was Phase III of the Coup whose Phase I was 9/11, and whose Phase II was the financial Â¢ri$i$/meltdown of 2008?
British version of Trump may be kicked out of his PM position next week.
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The only one here into “Deep State” stuff is D.
Jeffrey Moebus writes, â€œHas anybody ever considered the possibility that the only reason Donald Trump is in the White House is because the so-called â€œDeep Stateâ€ put him there?â€
The Deep State preferred Hillary Clinton.
That was Election 2016.
Three years later, theyâ€™re not as uncomfortable with Donald Trump as they were prior to Election Day, November 8, 2016.
Donald Trump won his Republican pickup of the presidency, in 2016, for numerous reasons. I will limit this to three.
The first had to do with the Democrats having won two consecutive election cyclesâ€”2008 and 2012 for Barack Obamaâ€”and, since the 1950s, only once did a party win three consecutive cycles for the presidency. That was the Republicans of the 1980s.
The second was because of income inequality, the bad trade deals, and peopleâ€”the have-notsâ€”not feeling the Obama presidency helped them sufficiently after the economic meltdown of 2008. (In other words: Wall Street was bailed out. Main Street was not.)
The third was that the 2016 Republican presidential primaries voters voted the nomination to the candidate they needed nominated. For the sake of the party trying to win back the presidency. John Kasich (the type of candidate you nominate when you are the White House opposition party and you wonâ€™t be unseating the incumbent presidsent), Marco Rubio (a empty figure), and Ted Cruz (who repels people even in his party) were not going to win the nomination. They offered nothing in the way of a different direction. As for the 2016 Democratsâ€”with its nominee Hillary Clintonâ€”it was an anti-establishment year and they didnâ€™t care.
The Deep State did not put Donald Trump in the White House. There were plenty of dynamics going on in the body politicâ€”donâ€™t forget Brexitâ€”and Trumpâ€™s election was an outcome that is opposite of what the Deep State does. The Deep State is much about control. Trumpâ€™s presidential election was not.
The Cry Baby In Chief is rage Tweeting today, calling “the Squad” â€” Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib — as well as House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff and Judiciary Committee Chair Jerry Nadler — “savages”.
Various theories of why Trump won: https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/why-donald-trump-won/index.html
However, him winning is water under the bridge now. The important thing now is to make him lose in 2020 and take back the Senate as well.
This from Vox explains perfectly how I feel: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/11/13578618/why-did-trump-win
Pragmatic wrote: The important thing now is to make him lose in 2020 and take back the Senate as well.
Amen to that!
Leia – That Vox article hit the nail on the head.
Ever since the election was over last November, one of the things I keep thinking about is how sure I was that the America that elected Barack Obama would never elect Donald Trump. I am prepared to admit that I was terribly wrong and significantly underestimated what I had written about back in 2014: Understanding the Threat of a Confederate Insurgency. In that article I quoted Doug Muder, who compared the Tea Party (now Trumpâ€™s base) to the Confederate world view.
[The essence of the Confederate worldview is that the democratic process cannot legitimately change the established social order, and so all forms of legal and illegal resistance are justified when it triesâ€¦
The Confederate sees a divinely ordained way things are supposed to be, and defends it at all costs. No process, no matter how orderly or democratic, can justify fundamental change.]
It is worth thinking about what the â€œdivinely ordained way things are supposed to beâ€ looks like to confederate insurgents. Robert Jones, CEO of the Public Religion Research Institute, gives us a clue in an excerpt from his book, â€œThe End of White Christian Americaâ€ by quoting something Donald Trump said during the campaign.
[In an interview on Pat Robertsonâ€™s Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) in early September, Trump put the choice starkly for the channelâ€™s conservative Christian viewers: â€œIf we donâ€™t win this election, youâ€™ll never see another Republican and youâ€™ll have a whole different church structure.â€ Asked to elaborate, Trump continued, â€œI think this will be the last election that the Republicans have a chance of winning because youâ€™re going to have people flowing across the border, youâ€™re going to have illegal immigrants coming in and theyâ€™re going to be legalized and theyâ€™re going to be able to vote, and once that all happens you can forget it.â€]
When it comes to white Christian America, Jones describes how it was that a man, whose life represents everything that goes against what they believe in, won them over.
[Trumpâ€™s campaignâ€”with its sweeping promise to â€œmake American great againâ€â€”triumphed by converting self-described â€œvalues votersâ€ into what Iâ€™ve called â€œnostalgia voters.â€ Trumpâ€™s promise to restore a mythical past golden ageâ€”where factory jobs paid the bills and white Protestant churches were the dominant cultural hubsâ€”powerfully tapped evangelical anxieties about an uncertain future.]
This is why those who argue over whether Trump supporters were motivated by racism or economic anxiety continue to miss the point. The issue at play was more broad than either of those assumptions capture. It was about nostalgia for the mythical golden age of the past that, fueled by anger, became a defense of â€œthe divinely ordained way things are supposed to be.â€ Included in that stew are the intertwining fears about changing demographics, immigrants, Muslims, women, LGBTQ, globalization, the impact of the Great Recession, the decline in religious affiliation and racism. In other words, nostalgia voters (i.e., confederate insurgents) were reacting to the perceived changes in their established social order.
Prior to the election, Rebecca Traister wrote this:
[The public spectacle of this presidential election, and the two that have preceded it, are inextricably linked to the racialized and gendered anger and violence we see around usâ€¦
Whatever their flaws, their political shortcomings, their progressive dings and dents, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton mean a lot. They represent an altered power structure and changed calculations about who in this country may leadâ€¦
This is our country in an excruciating period of change. This is the story of the slow expansion of possibility for figures who have long existed on the margins, and it is also the story of the dangerous rage those figures provoke.]
That is very similar to what Jones has written post-election.
[The election, more than in any in recent memory, came down to two vividly contrasting views of America. Donald Trumpâ€™s campaign painted a bleak portrait of Americaâ€™s present, set against a bright, if monochromatic, vision of 1950s America restored. Hillary Clintonâ€™ campaign, by contrast, sought to replace the first African American president with the first female president and embraced the multicultural future of 2050, the year the Census Bureau originally projected the United States would become a majority nonwhite nation. â€œMake American Great Againâ€ and â€œStronger Together,â€ the two campaignsâ€™ competing slogans, became proxies for an epic battle over the changing face of America.]
Ever since it became clear to me that what we are dealing with is a confederate insurgency, Iâ€™ve wondered how all this will end. Obviously Iâ€™m terrible at predictions, so itâ€™s not worth it to try. All I know is that the last two times this country faced a challenge like this (the Civil War and the civil rights movement), too much blood was spilled. Jones notes that, â€œAt the end of the day, white evangelicalsâ€™ grand bargain with Trump will be unable to hold back the sheer weight of cultural change.â€ In other words, no matter how hard they try, the 1950â€™s arenâ€™t coming back, and many of us donâ€™t want them to. We either face the future together, or eventually, all hell breaks loose.
Exactly, Rational Lefty! “The Squad” that Trump likes to pick on represents the future of America and that is scary to his base of deplorables.
Heh. If “The Squad” and their ilk represent the “future of America,” i can assure You that “The Deplorables” [and all the rest of the Trumpatistas] are no more afraid of it than gun owners are afraid of Beto’s Boast that “Damn right, we’re gonna seize Your guns.”
D wrote: “The Deep State preferred Hillary Clinton.”
If the Deep State had preferred The Hillary, she’d be in White House right now.
Folks seem to forget that wise old adage of Papa Joe Stalin: “When it comes to elections, it’s not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes.”
And Donald Trump will stay in the White House as long as he reads his scripts, and follows the direction and choreography of his owners, operators, and handlers. Should he deviate from that script, he will be gone.
Which may have been the plan all along.
Jeffrey Moebus, responding to one of my previous comments, writes: â€œIf the Deep State had preferred The Hillary, sheâ€™d be in White House right now.â€
Well, this is one instance in which the Deep State did not get their preference.
Well D, as Doc puts it: We’ll just have agree to disagree on whether the Deep State got their Boy or their Girl in the Oval Office. At this stage, it really doesn’t make much difference tho, does it?
For the fact of the matter is that it is difficult to see how the Deep State could be doing any better under Clinton than it now is under Trump [altho i’m sure they had their plans for her, as well].
Under Trump, which element of the Deep State ~ the military-industrial complex/petro-financial web/techno-infotainment matrix/drugs n guns cartel/surveillance-secrecy-security-safety panopticon ~ is not doing better than it has ever done, even under Obama, Cheney/Bush the Lesser, and Clinton?
Jeffrey Moebus writes, â€œâ€¦At this stage, it really doesnâ€™t make much difference tho, does it?â€
The Vox article and the Washington Monthly article both nail it! The Trumpanzees are scared of a changing culture, they’re scared of becoming minorities.
SNL is back! https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/29/media/snl-trump-baldwin-impeachment/index.html
Precisely! If Hillary had won, after 8 years of Obama, that would have been GAME OVER for their narrow, crabbed, racist/nationalist, male-centric, straight-centric, mostly white world.
Global Citizen Festival was on yesterday. Legendary singer/songwriter Carole King performed a set of her biggest hits at the Global Citizen Festival in Central Park in New York City on Saturday (Sept 28) night. The singer was introduce by American Idol OG winner and The Voice coach Kelly Clarkson for a performance of the classic hit â€œWhere You Lead.â€
Carole was part of an all star lineup that included Pharrell Williams, Alicia Keys, One Republic, H.E.R. and show closers Queen + Adam Lambert.
Queen + Adam Lambert hit the stage to close the Global Citizen Festival in New York City Saturday night (Sept 28) with an electric thirteen song concert. The band kicked off the set of high energy performances, with â€œNow Iâ€™m Hereâ€ and closed with the crowd pleaser â€œWe Will Rock You/We Are the Champions.â€
His stupid Trumpanzees are labeling anyone who stands up for feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism as SJW.
Rustbelt Democrat writes, â€œThe Vox article and the Washington Monthly article both nail it! The Trumpanzees are scared of a changing culture, theyâ€™re scared of becoming minorities.â€
After the presidential election of 2016, the neoliberal publication â€œWashington Monthlyâ€ tried to gaslight its readers by explaining away Trump having defeated Hillary to the extent you suggestâ€”racism, sexism, overall national cultural changesâ€”to give cover to the Clinton campaign and the Obama presidency without regard for the type of election that was 2016. It was an election in which people did not want status quo. The people did not want more of Obama. And, given the Democrats had the quintessential establishment nominee in Hillary Clinton, while the Republicans has a game-changer of a nominee in Donald Trumpâ€”and the presidency was in the column for eight years for the Democratsâ€”the result was a Republican pickup for Trump.
The attempts by anyone trying to explain this awayâ€”and doing so by gaslightingâ€”is an attempt to control the narrative and control the thoughts and responses by people who at least question how the Democratic Party operates.
I’m proud to support feminism, civil rights, multiculturalism, and other things his stupid Trumpanzees are against.
Pragmatic Progressive, â€œPrecisely! If Hillary had won, after 8 years of Obama, that would have been GAME OVER for their narrow, crabbed, racist/nationalist, male-centric, straight-centric, mostly white world.â€
The people you have described are not the only ones who voted in 2016.
A part of how Trump won was that 2016 Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton underperformed 2012 re-elected Democratic incumbent president Barack Obamaâ€™s margins with blacks and Hispanics and Asians. That means 2016 Republican pickup winner Donald Trump overperformed 2012 losing Republican Mitt Romneyâ€™s margins with blacks and Hispanics and Asians.
They are not “gaslighting” readers, dumb dumb!
Leia said: Iâ€™m proud to support feminism, civil rights, multiculturalism, and other things his stupid Trumpanzees are against.
One more thing about had Hillary Clinton had won the United States presidential election of 2016:
The 2018 midterm elections would not have been a Democratic wave. They would not have been won with overall gains by the Democrats. The opposite would have been more likely. They would have been won with overall gains by the Republicans. It could have been a Republican wave.
From 1914 to 2018â€”that is keeping in mind the 17th Amendmentâ€”24 of the 27 midterm elections were won with overall gains by the White House opposition party.
Rustbelt – I still suspect that D doesn’t understand about fighting for feminism, civil rights, multiculturalism, etc. because D is a white man.
Princess Leia writes, â€œRustbelt â€“ I still suspect that D doesnâ€™t understand about fighting for feminism, civil rights, multiculturalism, etc. because D is a white man.â€
Is that what you thought Election 2016 was about?
D – Has it ever occurred to you that more racists and sexists came out of the woodwork because Trump was using a bullhorn instead of a dog whistle?
D said: Is that what you thought Election 2016 was about?
I realized that the things that would be under attack by a Trump administration would be efforts to stop climate change, women’s rights, civil rights, etc.
Former Republican asks, â€œD â€“ Has it ever occurred to you that more racists and sexists came out of the woodwork because Trump was using a bullhorn instead of a dog whistle?â€
It has occurred to me that Trump motivated â€œmore sexists and racistsâ€ to vote.
Are you saying that these sexists and racists were not around in past elections?
Barack Obama, the first person who is black to be elected and re-elected and have served as president of the United States, won his 2008 Democratic pickup of the presidency by, in part, losing white voters nationally by less than 2004 losing Democratic nominee John Kerry. Kerry lost whites by â€“17. Obama lost them by â€“12. Kerryâ€™s margin in the U.S. Popular Vote was â€“2.46. So, whites helped deliver that 2008 Democratic presidential pickupâ€”both the Electoral College and the U.S. Popular Voteâ€”to Obama. So did males. Kerry lost men by â€“11. Obama flipped and won men by +1. There may have been a good number who are/were racist and sexistâ€”and they mathematically shifted toward and/or voted for Obama anyway.
Income inequality and universal healthcare are important, but, there’s so much more at stake than just those two issues.
Princess Leia writes, â€œI realized that the things that would be under attack by a Trump administration would be efforts to stop climate change, womenâ€™s rights, civil rights, etc.â€
In all this time, I have not seen you, or anyone else here who is close to you politically, write considerably about the issue I will mention following the next quote.
â€œRustbelt â€” I still suspect that D doesnâ€™t understand about fighting for feminism, civil rights, multiculturalism, etc. because D is a white man.â€
I suspect you, Princess Leia, and numerous other who regularly post comments here on â€œThe Progressive Professor,â€ have no problem with income inequality.
Approximately half the nationâ€™s employed people are earning $30,000 or less per year.
I have the feeling you, and numerous others who regularly post comments on this site, are not dealing with this as part of your reality; your experience. That you, and others who regularly post comments on â€œThe Progressive Professor,â€ are comfortableâ€”and do not relate. That it is indifference.
Pragmatic Progressive said this:
Income inequality and universal healthcare are important, but, thereâ€™s so much more at stake than just those two issues.
I second what she said. A wide variety of issues was at stake, from the makeup of the Supreme Court to protecting voting rights to protecting the social safety net to taking care of the environment, just to name a few.
D – Trump and the GOP want to take this country back to the 1920s economically and the 1950s socially. That’s what we are fighting against.
Pragmatic Progressive writes, â€œIncome inequality and universal healthcare are important, but, thereâ€™s so much more at stake than just those two issues.â€
Princess Leia writes, â€œI second what [Pragmatic Progressive] said. A wide variety of issues was at stake, from the makeup of the Supreme Court to protecting voting rights to protecting the social safety net to taking care of the environment, just to name a few.â€
In other words: Income inequality is and/or was not important to Pragmatic Progressive or Princess Leia.
To the approximately 50 percent of the people with employment who have incomes of $30,000 or less per yearâ€”and to the nearly 80 percent of employed people who are living paycheck to paycheckâ€”income inequality is important. Personally important. The most important issue.
One can write comments like what was posted by Princess Leia and Pragmatic Progressive when one does not have such a problemâ€”and that individual would prefer to direct those that do have that problem to turn their attention elsewhere. To the people, not posting here, who are sufferingâ€¦for them to be told their economic situationâ€”which is also speaking to their survivalâ€”should take a back seat is the same thing as getting dismissed.
D – You still do not understand. We are explaining to you that we aren’t single issue voters. We vote for improving the economy, protecting Social Security/Medicaid/Medicare, fighting climate change, improving education, making healthcare affordable, gun control, protecting women’s rights, protecting voting rights, etc.
D â€“ You still do not understand. We are explaining to you that we arenâ€™t single issue voters. We vote for improving the economy, protecting Social Security/Medicaid/Medicare, fighting climate change, improving education, making healthcare affordable, gun control, protecting womenâ€™s rights, protecting voting rights, etc.
Exactly! All issues are important to us, not just one or two things.
D â€“ Trump and the GOP want to take this country back to the 1920s economically and the 1950s socially. Thatâ€™s what we are fighting against.
That’s why we will never, ever vote for anyone with an R by their name. R’s want to undo all progress made.
There is no economic justice without racial justice and gender justice. They are intertwined, which is why identity politics should not be dismissed as being unimportant.
Rational Lefty is correct. Economic populism and what are commonly erroneously and dismissively referred to as â€œsocial issuesâ€ â€“ such as reproductive rights, immigration reform and civil rights for people of color, those who have disabilities, people of all faiths, LGBT people and women â€“ are indivisible. There is no economic populism without abortion rights and civil rights. No one can have economic justice if he or she doesnâ€™t have fundamental rights.
You canâ€™t talk about â€œeconomic justiceâ€ yet dismiss a womanâ€™s right to affordable, effective contraception â€¦ and abortion if that contraception fails. For women â€“ who are over half of voters and 58% of registered Democrats â€“ there is no â€œeconomic justiceâ€ that excludes reproductive choice. Period.
In entertainment news, I hear that Sean Spicer survived the first elimination of Dancing With The Stars. Looks like the Trumpanzees are going to keep him hanging around for a while on the show.
CNN is doing the October debate. The last time they did the debate it turned into a food fight. Not looking forward to them doing that again. It’s also going to be 12 people this time. Tulsi Gabbard and the impeachment guy qualified.
Over the weekend the Toddler In Chief was Tweet raging. He referred to his opponents as savages, called for a member of Congress to be investigated for treason, and threatened a Civil War like fracture in the country if he is removed from office.
With the Tweet raging he’s doing, he’s committing the same offense for which Andrew Johnson was impeached.
Another new poll on impeachment. There’s still split, but, support has risen amongst independents and Republicans.
House Democrats subpoena Ghouliani for Ukraine documents in impeachment inquiry.
Pompeo was on the Ukraine call.
More dangerous words from Trump: ‘We’re trying to find out’ who the whistleblower is.
I hope whoever he or she is has some protection.
Gun-toting far-right group says, ‘We ARE on the verge of a HOT civil war’ after the unhinged Trump tweet that Rustbelt referred to.
Pragmatic Progressive said:
Another new poll on impeachment. Thereâ€™s still split, but, support has risen amongst independents and Republicans.
They’re obviously having regrets.
Pragmatic Progressive writes, â€œYou [D] still do not understand. We are explaining to you that we arenâ€™t single issue voters.â€
Princess Leia writes, â€œExactly! All issues are important to us, not just one or two things.â€
Income inequality, for reasons I explained, and there even more reasons, is not merely a â€œsingle issueâ€ for some voters.
In a nation in which half the employed people are earning $30,000 or less, per year, and approximately 4 out of every 5 workers are living paycheck to paycheckâ€¦that is not confined to being a single issue.
This is a national crisis.
The response, so far, from both Princess Leia and Pragmatic Progressive, is insufficient.
D wrote: The response, so far, from both Princess Leia and Pragmatic Progressive, is insufficient.
D – Read the rest of the responses the ladies wrote today. They explain even more what they are talking about.
Democrats Can’t Avoid Identity Politics In 2020
D – The ladies are angry at you because you seem to dismiss racial justice and gender justice and only seem to care about economic justice. They feel like you are throwing matters that are important to women and people of color – who are increasingly becoming the face of the Democratic party – under the bus.
D: “In a nation in which half the employed people are earning $30,000 or less, per year, and approximately 4 out of every 5 workers are living paycheck to paycheckâ€¦that is not confined to being a single issue. This is a national crisis.”
Do You have a Solution to that crisis, D? Or anybody else?
And ~ what is the Cause of that crisis, that income inequality?
In Defense Of Identity Politics
Some food for thought from the article for you, D –
If African Americans find it disproportionately difficult to take advantage of liberal promises of life, freedom and economic opportunity because of their identity, it stands to reason that identity remains a concern. And while not all Americans can relate, this doesnâ€™t make black peopleâ€™s concerns false, or less worthy of urgent conversation. The same can be said for women, immigrants and LGBT Americans.
This 2016 map tweeted by Trumpty Dumbty is hugely misleading.
This is despicable! Barr is pressuring our allies to support conspiracy theories.
Since Barr is doing that, he needs to be impeached as well!
I have AtToady General Barr and Moscow Mitch at the top of my list along with Twitler as the Top Three most dangerous people in the US government. They all need to go ASAP.
Bernie is launching his 1st TV ads for 2020 in Iowa.
Currently he’s in third place in Iowa with Elizabeth Warren in the lead and Biden in 2nd place.
Mayor Pete’s campaign has raised $19 million in the third quarter.
Michael Moore is on talking with Ari. He says Biden is not a good choice.
I don’t think Biden would be a good choice either. His mind doesn’t seem as sharp, he doesn’t have much get up and go about him, I fear he’s going to look weak up on stage with Trump in a debate.